Date: December 20, 2016
Host: Jim Schneider
Guest: Chris Gaubatz
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Chris Gaubatz is a National Security Consultant and Vice President of Understanding the Threat. He is the son of a career Air Force OSI Special Agent. In 2007, Chris began researching the threat of jihadi organizations in the United States by posing as a Muslim convert and attending Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas conferences, gaining access as an intern with the Hamas organization, the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) in Virginia. While working at CAIR he uncovered a fraud scheme. He was invited by Hamas/CAIR leaders to work at their headquarters office in Washington DC. During his time there he obtained over 12,000 pages of documents from Hamas/CAIR and over 300 hours of covert audio/video recordings. His story is featured in the book, ‘Muslim Mafia’.
Chris said that the only time Islam teaches love and peace is when they’re talking to the media and politicians. Inside the mosques it’s a completely different story. He went on to describe Islam as a totalitarian system where everything from education to military to the political and religious are governed by Shariah. At the mosques they teach that there’s only one Islam and one Shariah. This is no different than what’s being taught by ISIS, Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Taliban and Boko Haram. They all say that they are Muslims waging jihad in order to establish an Islamic state under Shariah.
Did he find a systematic plan to do just that in America? Chris described the plan as being centered around the origins of Islam. Mohammed had what was called, ‘progressive revelation’ where you change society progressively over time. The Muslim Brotherhood strategy is a spin-off of Mohammed’s model. This takes place slowly at first through immigration, eventually asserting itself via the laws and finally becoming violent to establish an Islamic state.
Chris pointed to the Annandale, Virginia, FBI raid in 2004 where they found the archives of the Muslim Brotherhood. Part of that included what’s called ‘An Explanatory Memorandum’. This outlined the Brotherhood’s 5 phase plan to overthrow the U.S. government. They learned that the Brotherhood began working on that plan back in the 1960’s.
As this program moved along, Chris brought forth the following information:
–A brief history of ‘caliphate’ where Shariah reigns for Muslim nations globally and why this concept has been re-emerging on the world stage.
–His concerns about how Hamas/CAIR have been working within the U.S. federal government and their goal of changing public policy to move it toward a pro-Islamic stance.
–Warnings regarding Congressman Keith Ellison who is in the running to head up the Democratic National Committee. What do we know about him in terms of his connections to pro-Islamic/hard-left groups and what are we to make of past controversial statements he’s made?
–Does the Christmas market attack in Berlin have the fingerprints of Islam on it?
–Why pastors and sheriffs are the two groups that can have the biggest impact in solving this threat.
Chris believes impact/involvement at the local level is the primary goal for Muslims at this point. Local officials sit down with what Chris termed the ‘suit wearing jihadis’ who convince them that they’re the moderates and that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam.
He reminded listeners that we’re 15 years post 9-11 and we’re still arguing over what terms like ‘jihad’ mean and why Muslims are fighting us. He said that when someone yells ‘Allahu Akbar’ and kills someone, they’re doing that to advance the Ummah (the global Islamic community) and the jihad. They’re advancing jihad because physical/violent jihad is the highest form of worship in Islam and the only way to guarantee paradise.